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Poster: LordWolf Date: Mar 23, 2012 6:20pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: How to obtain original material?

Are you talking about people who download the movies from sites like this one and then convert to a DVD and charge me a fee for this service?

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Poster: jonc Date: Mar 23, 2012 6:24pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: How to obtain original material?

I'm sure there are some who simply grab the movies online and burn them, but if you ask on the Feature Films forum, you might get recommendations.

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Poster: LordWolf Date: Mar 23, 2012 6:27pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: How to obtain original material?

I'm not asking for how to get a copy of uploaded movies onto a DVD.

I'm asking about getting a copy of the ORIGINAL material. I mean I know that they weren't recorded to DVD or BR back in the 1960's (for example), but not looking to have reels of film to use when I don't have the equipment to handle that.

So looking for a step just below that, where it's an "as direct as possible" copy of the original but not downloading an already converted (cinepack/avi, mpg, ogg) file and then converting it backwards from there.

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Poster: jonc Date: Mar 23, 2012 6:34pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: How to obtain original material?

DVD is the closest you'll come to the original material. The stuff that comes here isn't from the studios, it's from users contributing from their collections, primarily DVDs.

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Poster: LordWolf Date: Mar 23, 2012 6:43pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: How to obtain original material?

Either I'm misunderstanding your response or your misunderstanding my request.

The way I'm reading your responses, you're saying to pay someone to download the content from a site like this one (in Cinepack/etc format), convert it to DVD and then send that to me. Is that correct? If so, that is ignoring my original question.

My question is about obtaining the material pre-cinepack/avi, pre-ogg, pre-mp4. How do I obtain THAT version of desired videos?

To give you an example, let's say that I want a copy of "It's A Wonderful Life" and I want to be able to convert that to an avi or mkv or something and upload that to a site. Unless I'm missing my guess, I can't just buy the movie on DVD and do that because there's bound to be something that was done to make that version of the work copyrighted again (colorized or some other alteration to make it an 'original' work). I'd want a version of that movie that is guaranteed to be copyright free.

So how would I go about doing THAT? If I wanted a video from this site to play on a DVD, I'd just download the video and then convert it to DVD myself. So it would be pointless for me to pay someone else to do it for me. (The "It's A Wonderful Life" reference is merely an example for my point.)

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Poster: jonc Date: Mar 23, 2012 6:57pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: How to obtain original material?

I think I understand you, but the "original" content is the disk or media that the DVI/cinepack was ripped from. I did not say *all* PD merchants grab their media online, I said *some probably* do. Again, the Feature Films forum would be helpful in this regard. Some people there are or have been regular patrons and can tell you which ones are good and which ones to stay way from.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffRick Prelinger Date: Mar 23, 2012 7:21pm
Forum: movies Subject: Re: How to obtain original material?

If I understand you, you're looking for highest-quality copies of PD materials. If that's true, I think you have to find a film collector or a friendly archives and negotiate a deal with him/her for video masters made from their copies. Or (despite what you said above) start to collect film materials and pay to have them transferred.